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MCNALLY
 
 
Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 11:14:35 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 733
Can you be logged into the platinum server and prime server simultaneously? If this is the case I would be very interested in coming to Platinum to play.
 

ETANNIDOMHNAILL

Shioni-Ro of the Erithi

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 11:18:40 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 734
Unfortunately, you can only be in one or the other, not both.

Gretchen

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DRIZZT-12

It's mine, my own, my precious

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 11:20:18 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 735
Sadly, you cannot. It is one or the other. But, come over to Plat. and try it out anyway! If you don't want to pay to try it out you can wait until the summer. GM Naionna has told us that plans are currently in the works for organizing and setting up free summer trials again this year.

I personally moved over during a summer trial and 3 months is a great way to get adjusted, pulled in, and wanting to stay FOR-EV-AR!

-Adam


"You guys took all the pretty places." ~Anonymous
 

CRAFTSTER

Trulley, young warrior

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 11:24:24 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 736
* I dont get the idea there is a different server for the two? you are all in the general population and have the same character and can go everywhere the lower class people like myself can go to correct? you have some special features I thought, and can have up to 15 characters and have more locker space and quests and such but its still all the same game right? *

""The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, youre still a rat.""
 

DRIZZT-12

It's mine, my own, my precious

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 11:28:29 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 737
Here's some great information on Platinum for you from a current Platinum member, and longstanding one.

http://www.gsguide.net/index.php?title=Platinum_FAQ

and

http://www.gsguide.net/index.php?title=Platinum_Beginner's_Guide

-Adam


"You guys took all the pretty places." ~Anonymous
 

DRIZZT-12

It's mine, my own, my precious

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 11:29:19 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 738
I'd post a more detailed explanation, but sadly I'm leaving for work now and not enough time.

-Adam


"You guys took all the pretty places." ~Anonymous
 

CAELRIC

 

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 11:53:00 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 739
* I dont get the idea there is a different server for the two? you are all in the general population and have the same character and can go everywhere the lower class people like myself can go to correct? you have some special features I thought, and can have up to 15 characters and have more locker space and quests and such but its still all the same game right? *


No, you're thinking of the difference between premium and prime. Premium and prime are all on the same servers, in the same world, interact with each other, etc...

Platinum is a complete different world, with different characters, different inhabitants, etc... It has the same maps, and same monsters as prime, but the plotline has started to diverge significantly from prime.

Originally, Platinum started because Prime was incredibly overcrowded and RP had gone out the window for a lot of it. Plat was advertised as a return to the old days,w hen the population was around 60-100 people during peak hours, and with more GM interaction.

Now that Prime has gone down to what, maybe 300-400 during peak hours, a lot of the RP has come back. Plat population during peak hours is usually 30-50, so it is a lot less crowded. We also do get plenty of GM interaction, though never as much as some of us would like.

Either way, I'm happy with Plat, but it is an extra $10/month, over the premium price.

-Taakhooshi, and Me
 

CRAFTSTER

Trulley, young warrior

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 11:55:09 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 740
* ahhhh now I understand! *

""The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, youre still a rat.""
 

MCNALLY
 
 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 12:00:36 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 741
Do you think this is something that they would be open to suggestion for? I think they could probably increase some subscriptions if this was allowed/offered.
 

LEEJ187
 
 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 2:36:12 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 742
Honestly? Why would you want to MA, unless you're running dual-monitors by being able to login into both Prime and Plat, one of those persona/characters is doing absolutely nothing. There's not alot that bothers us in Plat, we have a Krolvin who sounds like he ate Scotty from Star Trek, a Giantman covered in worm parts, Gnomes galore and alternating love-fests and hate-fests, and Plat is a place where everyone is someone. But if you're able to log into both, all you're doing is creating a zombie. DOES NOT WANT.

~James/Auvreaian
 

CAELRIC

 

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 2:44:28 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 743
we have a Krolvin who sounds like he ate Scotty from Star Trek

Brinret?

Gnomes galore

Kill all gnomes, and I won't be too unhappy. Sure, I'll miss Vyrsh, but oh well. ;)

And yes, I agree, why do you want to log into both at the same time? Just come over to plat and enjoy it. There are plenty enough zombies as it is (yes, even in Plat)

Heck, if you are on a premium account, upgrade to plat for a month (for $10) and see if it is something you like.

-Taakhooshi, and Me
 

SMAHSH
 
 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 3:04:08 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 744
Without Platinum, I wouldn't be playing at all. The smaller population means that we all know one another, more or less.

That's worth it for me. Sure, we have our issues, but it's a pretty tight group of folks there.

Fight my brute: http://taeghan.mybrute.com
 

GS4-ITZEL

 

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 3:42:34 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 745
There are many and varied reasons someone might want to be in both instances at once, and in the absence of further information (which doesn't have to be given) we should probably not jump into negative assumptions.

We should definitely not discourage someone to come to Plat based on a simple question. No bashing.

Itzel

Team Plat
Forest Gnome Guru
Ta'Illistim Guru

Speaking to Cirath, Nixxi exclaims, "Pet her and say she's pretty! It is the only way we will survive the night!"
 

DRIZZT-12

It's mine, my own, my precious

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 3:51:38 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 746
I agree with Itzel, try out Platinum!

-Adam


"You guys took all the pretty places." ~Anonymous
 

DOUG
 
 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/27/2010 6:15:54 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 748
Perhaps the best thing about Plat is the general tolerance to allow one to discover what one is, and to be that someone. That, in a nutshell, is the essence of RP.

A zombied out character is possible. Narcolepsy is possible. But, I think the undercurrent is, stay responsive to the environment, whatever that responsiveness level is envisioned to be.

Give it a try! And don't worry too much about others demanding you respond a certain way.

But -- don't set your expectations on anything in particular, other than a strong RP environment. Less disappointing that way.

Doug
 

GS4-KAIKALA

Oops... did I break it again?

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/30/2010 3:17:54 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 749
>>Do you think this is something that they would be open to suggestion for? I think they could probably increase some subscriptions if this was allowed/offered.

It's something I can open up for discussion with TPT, certainly.

My own personal stance (this is not an official staff stance) is that allowing people to be logged into both instances at the same time encourages inactivity in one of the two instances. Especially in Platinum (though certainly not to say that Prime isn't included in this opinion), that's not something that I think anyone is inclined to encourage in a RP-based game.

From a business perspective, there's the positive in that it brings in more money to allow both instances at once, but there's also the negative in that it drives away the players who are in Platinum specifically because of the environment that's currently in place.

 ~Kaikala
 

MCNALLY
 
 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 1/31/2010 7:05:44 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 750
I can understand your concern for having inactive individuals in plat, however, how much time is spent solo in the game? It seems to me that in Platinum you would really have to seek out interaction with peers so it wouldn't be too disturbing to the game environs.

I think people would pay more attention to their platinum account anyway. (I dual-screen, so I wouldn't miss anything really).

It would be an enjoyable option and definitely something I would do if it were allowed/offered. It could possibly also bring up the population numbers for both Platinum and Prime, a concern of some people.

If you could, please bring it up to the powers that be to see if it would be considered.

Thank You,
GS Lover Stephen
 

DOUG
 
 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 2/1/2010 8:28:07 PM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 759
Let's round the horn again.

>>It seems to me that in Platinum you would really have to seek out interaction with peers so it wouldn't be too disturbing to the game environs.

Mostly true, but there are areas where it would be unfortunate to have attention diverted. Gathering places, locksmiths (by the way, join and be a rogue with a penchant for 'smithing!), pawnshops, etc.

>>I think people would pay more attention to their platinum account anyway. (I dual-screen, so I wouldn't miss anything really).

Right up until that pending death or completed visit to the Lady's gates distracted you at that o' so crucial moment on screen 2, and someone expected you to be behaving 'normally' to them. Or an 'assist' came to pass, or. . .

>>If you could, please bring it up to the powers that be to see if it would be considered.

I'm glad the GMs said they would run it 'round the horn, but want to point out that these 'expectations', reasonable or no, exist. The fear that the unintended action may result is a huge barrier to overcome.

Until some mechanism is brought forward which makes this less of a distractor to Plat members, it isn't highly likely to occur. Although I doubt sincerely anyone invested in Plat is going to leave because someone they know little if at all is having a zombie moment, the pressures on staff in this regard are more enormous than we may realize.

Doug
 

MCNALLY
 
 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 2/2/2010 12:42:59 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 760
To me, there really isn't much difference from someone walking away to get a soda vs. someone on their prime screen selling some gems.

There are always distractions, people have kids to feed, wives to talk to, husbands to beat, dishes to wash, laundry to fold, etc.

I think if someone doesn't respond in a split second it's not going to destroy the community of the game.

That being said, I completely understand your point. I also believe that the chances of them actually doing this are close to nil, but it's never a bad idea to ask or request or bring it up and see what kind of feedback you get.

Of course there is always a quick fix to this by just running a basic prime account and a platinum account, but that's getting pretty costly for a game.

I already have ideas for what my character would be in Platinum with a background story and theme that I want. It would be really fun if I could just execute and play my beloved mage on prime and start a new adventure on Platinum at the same time.

Either way, I'd like to play with you all at some point and start enjoying the platinum community!

Stephen
 

DRIZZT-12

It's mine, my own, my precious

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 2/2/2010 12:55:45 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 761
<<There are always distractions, people have kids to feed, wives to talk to, husbands to beat, dishes to wash, laundry to fold, etc.

I personally feel that if you need to take the time to do stuff like this then it is best to just log out. The main reason is because as a part of the community we tend to help each other out a lot. And if someone dies while you are AFK, yet you're still logged in, and you happen to be the only person that may have been able to rescue that person then it can look really bad.

I would personally hate the feeling of having kept myself logged in while AFK, and someone just lost some or all of their stuff because they decayed while others thought I was going for the body since I was the only one logged in able to reach it. It's just a whole different ball game when you take that into account.

-Adam


"You guys took all the pretty places." ~Anonymous
 

BHTM

 

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 2/2/2010 1:03:04 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 762
>>And if someone dies while you are AFK, yet you're still logged in, and you happen to be the only person that may have been able to rescue that person then it can look really bad.

It looks bad on the person who assumed that someone would just automatically be available to rescue them without simply asking first. Not on you for being AFK, migrating skills, getting a bite to eat, or whatever.

I know I've gotten disconnected only to come back in 10 minutes later or so to find out that I was ghosting the entire time.

-Richard.
 

DRIZZT-12

It's mine, my own, my precious

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 2/2/2010 1:12:14 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 763
<<It looks bad on the person who assumed that someone would just automatically be available to rescue them without simply asking first. Not on you for being AFK, migrating skills, getting a bite to eat, or whatever.

I agree, on some of this. Don't always assume someone will always be able to rescue you. Everyone should take precautions when doing any activity that could cause death. The "responsibility" falls both ways, I believe. But I also personally believe that if you're logged in to the game you should be playing the game. Migrating skills is just about the only exception to this rule; which does make it harder for Platinum.

-Adam


"You guys took all the pretty places." ~Anonymous
 

RICEA3

Lady Treeva Ancalime

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 2/2/2010 4:16:09 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 764
>>>And if someone dies while you are AFK, yet you're still logged in, and you happen to be the only person that may have been able to rescue that person then it can look really bad.

I absolutely would not take blame for this. Someone assuming you can or are going to rescue them simply because you are the only one signed in is highly presumptuous. Both my girls cannot venture to a majority of GS hunting grounds currently, and neither of them have any method of locating bodies unless they announce. A lot of people do not.

I don't see why being at a table AFK migrating is any different than being at a table AFK while talking to your wife or beating your husband. You're AFK at a table either way, right? Probably you're AFK for less time during the latter, since smacking your husband isn't really time consuming if done right.

Due to my time zone, when playing in the morning, I'm frequently the only person or one of 2-3 people signed in. During that hour or two I typically hunt, turn in a bounty, then park my cookies at a table while I do household tasks or read the forums.

If my girl dies during these super early morning hours, I wait for about 5 minutes before signing out. I do not expect to be rescued where there is 1 other person signed in. I patiently wait until someone I know has woken up and can perform a rescue. I figure other people should be smart enough to do the same.

-Mandy
 

DRIZZT-12

It's mine, my own, my precious

 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 2/2/2010 10:09:04 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 765
Most of my reasoning on the subject though is from personal experience. I do a lot of rescues. I personally would feel bad if I was ever logged in, yet AFK, and could have prevented a loss. There's also the fact that I feel more responsibility when it happens in the higher level hunting grounds, where only very few are able to get one another.

-Adam


"You guys took all the pretty places." ~Anonymous
 

MCNALLY
 
 
Re: Gemstone IV Plat/Prime Servers · on 2/2/2010 11:21:44 AM Generate a link to this post in a pop-up window. 766
After all, this is a game meant for enjoyment first and foremost, not ensuring that you are 100% available to the community. Though, the community is what draws people to Platinum in the first place. Frankly, I think it would be pretty ridiculous for someone to come to you and be angry/upset that you were AFK for a moment and didn't save them when they died or needed help. There are also RP ways to deal with AFK as well so (which are built into the game), this not being able at all times doesn't really jive with me.

On a side note - Are there any classes in Platinum that are essentially non-existent or very difficult to find (prime time)?
 
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